# RATAC *Investigative interviewing protocol named in at-issue item AI-Scott-026* RATAC is an interviewing protocol for investigators. It appears in the record in a single at-issue item, AI-Scott-026. That item states that the protocol was "taught to tens of thousands of investigators across all fifty states." It also states that peer-reviewed literature described the protocol as "officially adopted in many US jurisdictions" while "no research on what RATAC-trained interviewers actually do" had been published.[^1] The item rests on one research source hosted at the domain cdn.icmec.org. That source is not among the citable URLs for this article.[^1] The project pairs the item with an anchor document: the March 2025 presidential action *Stopping Waste, Fraud, and Abuse by Eliminating Information Silos*.[^2] For RATAC, the record carries no statute, enactment, court filing, agency finding, dollar figure or dated event. It carries no fact specific to Minnesota.[^1] ## What The at-issue item describes RATAC as a protocol taught to investigators and refers to "RATAC-trained interviewers."[^1] According to the item, peer-reviewed literature described the protocol as "officially adopted in many US jurisdictions."[^1] The item states that the same literature reported that "no research on what RATAC-trained interviewers actually do" had been published.[^1] The item does not date that literature or name the jurisdictions.[^1] ## How many The item states that the protocol was taught to "tens of thousands of investigators across all fifty states."[^1] The record does not show the source of this figure or the date of the count, so the figure is given here as the item's own.[^1] ## In the at-issue record Item AI-Scott-026 is ranked 26 and compiled from Matrix 3.8.[^1] It sets two things side by side: * the protocol's reported reach; * the reported absence of published research on what trained interviewers do.[^1] The item's anchor is the presidential action on eliminating information silos.[^2] The item states its rationale for the pairing: "a national method with no published data on its own practice is an unauditable system."[^1] That rationale is the item's own framing, not a finding of any court or agency. The record does not establish that the anchor document addresses RATAC.[^2] ## Notes [^1]: Minnesota wiki at-issue record, *Item AI-Scott-026* (Matrix 3.8, package "Scott", undated) — the item's text on RATAC, including its quotations of a research source at cdn.icmec.org. That source's URL is not among this article's citable URLs. The item's only listed URL is its anchor (note 2), which does not itself support these statements. [^2]: The White House, *Stopping Waste, Fraud, and Abuse by Eliminating Information Silos* (presidential action, March 2025) — the anchor document the project assigns to at-issue item AI-Scott-026. https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/03/stopping-waste-fraud-and-abuse-by-eliminating-information-silos/